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My sisters partner died last night
by wobble inmy sister has pioneered since shortly after she left school in the mid-sixties.
she has had the same pioneer partner ,and shared a house with her,for over thirty years.. last night her long time friend died.
she had not enjoyed the best of health in recent years, but at 59, this is a devastating shock to my sister.. the problem is i don't really know what to say to her, she knows i don't believe the wt's view on life after death, so i suppose i shall just have to provide a listening ear.
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So I did it - almost!
by wantstoleave intoday, i'm not quite sure how it started, but i voiced my concerns about the religion i've been brought up in since i was 3. my dad went straight on the offensive, though kept nice and polite.
i told them that someone can not be df for accepting a transfusion.
not sure why i started with that example, but nevertheless... dad said 'since when' and started pumping me for information, when, where, what...you get the picture and biggest one of all 'how do you know this'.
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Don't let hurting your parents, or anyone else guilt you into staying in. My mother gave me the old"I've lost both of my children." We are still here if she could see past a publishing company that she lets control her life. At least your mother, for now, seems reasonable.
You know what it is like growing up in that cult, don't make your children go through the same thing, make the same painful decisions you are now making. I would recomend not letting your father, or anyone else study with them. Install in them your values, without the restrictions of who to talk to, who to associate with, what to read, what not to read, ect.
You have some big decisions ahead, I encourage you to make them carefully.
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Layin' some heavy stuff on ya'
by AK - Jeff inthree days ago i became aware that my daughter was arrested.
again.. here's a little history.
we adopted this child when she was 2 months old.
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Jeff, I am sorry to hear about your situation. You have to know that you did your all for this girl and no fault lies with you or your wife. You show your loving and giving spirit in all that you did for your daughter, and her children. Unfortunately some make bad decisions and refuse to return the love and affection given them.
I can relate to your pain, I had a step son who is still in jail for drug charges and other crimes to support his habits. It is natural to blame yourself and feel responsible for your children's faults, but you know deep down that you and your family are not the reason that she took the actions that she did.
I wish you all the best with your family situation, sometimes the heavy shit comes down only on those strong enough to endure it. I think you are one of those people.
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beer
by John Doe ini never really liked beer, but, i got a hankering for one on the way home from work.
i picked up a six pack of foster's (never tried it before) and i must say, it's prettty danged good.
what do you drink?.
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I drink Molson Ice or molsenXX, very good and smooth. For cookouts and ball games, got to have Miller Lite, strong enough, but you can drink it all day and not make a fool of yourself. My girlfriend likes Bud Light, no, not a bama fan, just bad taste in beer.
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If you are still a JW, you pray to a bunch of old men who run a book publishing company.
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Circuit & District Overseers That Made An Impact
by minimus inwe have a lot of new ones on this site as well as some who have been here for years----i know this subject has been brought up before, but were there any memorable cos or dos that you can recall?.
co arnie scneider was my last co when i was an elder.
he was a very sweet man..
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This thread reminds me of a story, but I had to think for a long time before I could remember his name. The CO's name was Lester Bailey, He seemed like a pretty good guy for a dub. Anyway he and his wife had come from the west coast, California if I remember correctly. We were on the east coast and it was winter. We were out in field circus and I realized that he only had a suit coat on where everyone else had overcoats. As I didn't have much extra cash being a construction worker in the winter, I gave him my credit card and told him to get an overcoat so he could fit in with the rest of us. BIG mistake. On sunday morning he comes in with a new coat but said that he forgot my card and would mail it to me. A few days later it came in the mail with the receipt. He bought a middle of the road coat, not too expensive, but not cheap, and a pair of gloves. A reasonable purchase, but his wife was not nearly as reasonable. She took it upon herself to buy a new dress, shoes and pair of $35 sunglasses.
An over $600 impact that I never made again. The next time I saw him at a CA, he would not even look at me. Turned out to be an ass like most of the rest of them.
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Did You See Politics In "Jehovah's" Organization?
by minimus init is amazing to note that some witnesses actually believe the organization is totally "theocratic, run by the top down".
i believe many witnesses could never accept former jw's writing about their experiences because they just couldn't imagine all the backroom deals and questionable practices that indicate holy spirit has nothing to do with the process.. did you experience "politics" within the theocracy?.
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I agree completely with undercover. The more ass kissing and favors done for those in power the faster you moved up.
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Did You See Politics In "Jehovah's" Organization?
by minimus init is amazing to note that some witnesses actually believe the organization is totally "theocratic, run by the top down".
i believe many witnesses could never accept former jw's writing about their experiences because they just couldn't imagine all the backroom deals and questionable practices that indicate holy spirit has nothing to do with the process.. did you experience "politics" within the theocracy?.
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An Elder wrote anomously...
by Butterflyleia85 ini realize as an elder that i am speaking out against the very organization i try to faithfully represent, but i personally think that the governing body is wrong by teaching that only what they teach us, as printed in the watchtower publications, should be considered to be the truth.
theyve made the expression of any personal opinions or group debates over their official versions of biblical truths subject to disciplinary action often leading to someone being disfellowshipped.. .
that is why i feel that i must keep my own identity somewhat anonymous.
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Until Jehovah changes the hearts and understanding of the Governing Body through his Holy Spirit and love for his Witnesses on Earth, I don’t want my family to suffer because I want to speak out.
How long will this guy take to figure out that the GB has NO access to Holy Spirit. I hope soon. He needs to read CoC , Even though I'd been out for a year and a half, It opened my eyes to many things. I ordered mine from Amazon also. Now reading Franz's Christian Freedom.
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I Don't Have to Be "RIGHT" Anymore.
by OnTheWayOut infor the record, i don't believe in the god of the bible, and i find it hard to believe in the god of any religion on earth.
i am closest to atheist in my beliefs if you want a traditional title, but i prefer "rationalist.
" i will do god's will for me when he directly tells me what it is.
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I often find myself questioning everything. Since coming out 18 months ago, I sometimes fall back into the thinking of the cult. Does anyone know how long it takes to rid your mind of 28 years of JW indoctrination? I do now believe as many has already stated, if there is a god, he needs to stand up and make himself / herself known and revise his book into an understandable, forthright document?